Wowzer. This is a fasten-your-seatbelt show. Vince Kadlubek, the visionary co-founder of the internationally renowned interactive, experiential performance art space Meow Wolf, joins Melanie.

He’s stepped away from Meow Wolf’s day-to-day operations into the role of Executive Advisor. 

Vince dives deep, talking about the role of imagination in starting from a sort-of starving artist local collective to running a multi-million dollar business with the backing of George R. R. Martin, no less.

How to curate an experience and contribute to the collective are part of this fascinating conversation.

Vince Kadlubek is also the founder of the consulting agency Spatial Activations. Here’s the Facebook description:

Where space meets imagination to create mind-blowing experiences.
Physical: Monumental sculpture, murals, pop-ups, interactive installations, events, parties, art.
Digital: AR/VR, spatial computing, audio/visual, mobile platform, projection mapping.